Can anybody tell me the name of this equipment
 

I found these tools for sale locally. I'm trying to do some research on them. They are just calling them gas powered plows but when I google that I'm not finding anything like these. Maybe they have more specific name.
Both of them say they haven't been started in years. What do you think of something like this. I don't have any land or even a backyard but I thought it might be something worth having in the future or maybe could be used to try to do some type of small business. I was thinking maybe there are people out here in the burbs that would like to start a little crop area in their backyards and I could get it started for them. This way I could learn a little something about farming. If you could even call it that. I don't know, it was just a thought anyway.
What might these be worth? They are asking $200 for the red one, $50 for the other.
Thanks ahead.

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I think that since now most rotary tillers come with plow attachment people just stopped making dedicated plows.

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The first one appears to be an old rear tine tiller.....I can't really see the back end, so it's hard to tell.....and somebody has cobbled up a 'brush guard' on the front....so maybe that is a brush mower on the back end ? Might be a REALLY early Troy built tiller......just hard to say exactly from the pics....look for a tag on the frame itself, not the Wisconsin engine.

The second one is a small plow.....that particular plow is generally called a 'potato plow'....designed to run down the middle of a hill of potatoes and open the dirt to both sides of the hill, laying the potatoes out to be picked up by hand.

Unless you just like to fool with old stuff, they aren't worth much IMHO.....I wouldn't haul them home if you gave them to me. If you can't find a name on the tiller, parts are going to be hard to come by.....and tiller tines tend to wear rather fast, so that's a definite replacement item.

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Worn-out junk.

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The thing Andy is calling a plow is worth having. they made all kinds of attachments for it and they are great for running down rows cultivating. It is just a single bottom but that is OK, you can fabricate all kinds of attachments to them. We later used a old Allies Chalmers tractor model CA with a cultivator bar that had four of those shoes on them. You can really cover some ground in a hurry.

The rototiller is worth throwing in the back field for parts bartering.

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Thanks for the response.

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QWAK John,I could be wrong but they look like a very old set of "YETI shavers" likely from an old YETI BARBER SHOP!:signs14:

http://www.shavemyyeti.com/index.html

Like I said I could be wrong! :dontknow:

HE HE HE
the DUCK

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John, as others have said these are junk. I see better looking stuff sold for scrap at the junkyards. IMO the cheapest way to go is to wait for one of those traveling tool sales outfits to come to your area[Cummins Tools, etc.] and buy a super string trimmer with a rototiller attachment. Mine that I bought three years ago is called a "Green Machine" but is actually a Homelight underneath. Only has a foot wide head, but is very powerfull and can turn a 25' x 25' area of sod into a well tilled garden in an hour on a pint of gas. Bought mine with the rototiller head, a brush trimmer head and a grass trimmer head refubished for under $150. Some of the best fiat I ever ever spent! Note: I replaced the blunt brush trimmer blade with a carbide tipped 6 1/2 inch rotary saw blade and can zipp through 3" oak sapplings at ground level in less time than it takes to type this. Don't know if this is considered safe to do by the factory!

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The one wheeled plow, I sell these for $200 at the antique engine shows. They never stay in my booth more than an hour. They are favorites to put a two wheel cart with seats behind. The other is a David Bradley walk behind plow, not much value there. Where are you located?

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First machine: rototiller likely. If my guess is right on the second machine then this machine would be used before the furrow opener.

Second machine: My guess is it's a furrow opener for row crops like potatoes. Throw a set of closing discs a foot behind the opener, have someone drop potato seed piece every 12" between the opener and closer... you could plant a fair bit with that thing. Without closing discs you have to cover the seed manually... with a shovel. (Rows are meant to be about 3' apart, BTW)

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We did this in another thread recently. Should someone buy a tiller and what kind?

The consensus seemed to be that money was better spent on bettering the soil in your garden than using a tiller. I've tilled a fair piece and I can tell you outright, I'm consistantly disappointed.

They're noisy, it's an engine to repair. The action over-oxidizes the soil, which causes loss of water and nutrients while killing earthworms and other vital creatures. They don't dig deep enough to avoid a hard-pan below and to sink weeds the way a plow does. For $1500-$2000US you can get a Ford 8N or equivalent and have a whole tractor.

You can't till raw ground, you can't plant with one, and shouldn't use one often because of soil damage. In short, there's a very, very, very narrow appropriate use for them.

I offered this instead:
http://www.farmerbrownsplowshop.bigs...generic59.html

I've used these, which are expensive but are not tied to availability of gas and fine machine parts. They till far closer, and with virtually no damage to the soil and ecosystem. All you need do is push it up and down the rows every 5-7 days like a broom.

I'm with Mtn on this one: use the tiller bodies like the David Bradleys as an gas-powered oxcart and break and till soil by other means.

TS

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QWAK,TheSimpleton,I have a Ford 9n (1949) with a front end loader and 3 buckets,it is basicly a lawn orniment because keeping it runing was a huge problem. It is a 6 volt positive ground magneto engin which I rebuilt with new pistons,rings,cilendar sleeves and crank shaft barings. I have about $1700.00 in to it and tried to sell it a fiew years back and best offer was just $900.00.

It seemed like a good idea at the time to me but just did not work out.

I have heard it can or could be converted to a 12 volt system but not found any information on how to do it. IF you know how let me know as it realy would be nice to have it up and runing.

the DUCK

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It's a plus you already realize it's a positive ground.

Some people just don't take to machinery. I think we should respect that. It's like how people drive a $35,000 Suburban because they take the boat out twice a year. You could rent those two days or hire it done and save $15,000. Same with tractors. Hire the plowing or whatever and use a push hoe and shovel as you move as far into no-till permaculture as possible.

How to convert: as I understand, there's nothing to it. Get any junk auto alternator of some sort and replace the generator. Starter and coil are the same but it needs some minor parts. Starter turns faster on 12v so starts better.

Kits available:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/2N-8N-9N-FORD-TRA...QQcmdZViewItem

How to:

http://www.ntractorclub.com/howtos/6to12v.htm

An 8N should really work perfectly, almost always though. If you've got compression, check or rebuild the carb. Often they sit and varish, float, etc. I've seen the wires get wet, points char, rust in gas tank clog outtake, but they're all functionally simple things.

TS

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Gold Duck

Just go to the fleet supply store and buy the shop manual for the tracter, it tells you everything you will need to know aqnd how to fix it. I have a 1939 and a 1940 9n that both run great. Parts are relatively cheap and readily available. A few simple tools is all that is required to fix them and mine seem to be pretty easy on gas. Implements are easy to find fairly cheap, there are lots of them at the smaller tractor shops out in the countryside. Both mine are 6volt and they have given me no trouble. It does help if you buy an 8 volt battery, then you don't have to change anything in the charging or starting system.

Good luck.

BP

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QWAK,Bushpilot,Thanks for the information!:listen: :grin:

Most of my cars and trucks have been old beaters and I have even rebuilt the engins but that was a long time ago and after this tractor almost killed me I just let it be an Orniment and went on to other projects. :afraid:

Actualy it was my own IGNORENCE that almost got me killed realy. I started working on the thing and decided to check the tire pressure because it looked real low. When I put the gage on it there was no pressure and there had been an obvious small antifreez leak I had noticed (I knew they put antifreez and water in for better traction) any way I draged the air hose over and filled the tire just like I would a car. I did not know tractor tires were made to run at very LOW PSI!:dontknow: :goodnight

Luckey for me I had just steped away a fiew feet when it went off like a LAND MINE! If it had gone off wile my face as next to it I am shure it would have taken my HEAD OFF! :afraid: :albertein

There are just SO many projects and things to do I just let things go passed a certin point and move on to the next thing and the tractor just sits there being a lawn orniment. :beer:

the DUCK